The Skunk and Tiger

"Ignorance breeds monsters to fill up the vacancies of the soul that are unoccupied by the verities of knowledge."-Horace Mann

Monday, April 10, 2006

I have gone from anger to disgust with George W. Bush and his ill-conceived war. Dubya's messianic view of himself and his new "secret" plans for Iran are unquestionably insane. It is frightening that both Muslim and Christian Mullahs believe that a bloody war will bring a return of their Lord. Bush made no mistake when he used the word Crusade.

I think Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks addresses the issue of Iran well:

We might be on the verge of starting World War III and everyone seems decidedly calm. The administration is thinking of dropping nuclear bombs on a Muslim country that did not attack us. What do you think Muslims throughout the world will do in reaction? Do you think they'll be calm?

If you thought they didn't like Danish cartoons, wait till you get a load of them after we start another unprovoked war in another Muslim country.

And this time we use nuclear weapons!
We are going to light this world on fire if we do this. This is not theoretical. The Washington Post is reporting that the plans have already been drawn up and the administration has been advised that it must act within a matter of months.

My God, do we have no conscience? Nuclear weapons?!!! And in a historic act of irony, we are saying we have to do this because Iran might develop nuclear weapons. Yes, God forbid they should develop nuclear weapons and consider using them on other countries - like we are about to do them!

Imagine if the shoe were on the other foot. If Iran dropped nuclear weapons on us (or Israel) in a "preventative war," we would call them barbarians and war criminals - because they would be. Well, what separates us for them?

You know what's the best way to prevent a war? Don't start one!

Read whole post at Cenk's Blog


At April 11, 2006, Blogger vintage_neo said...

The funny thing is that people are worried about it. I'm not because I know the ending of the story and I yearn for Christ to return and establish His Kingdom. The sooner the better I say!!!

At April 12, 2006, Blogger yelling_at_the_radio said...

How can you know the apocalypse is really coming soon? Countless others before you have interpreted the Bible or accepted an interpretation of another only to be wrong. Dead wrong: their errors often cost many innocent people their lives. How are you any different than those false preachers of 300, 800, or 1900 years prior? If you, who are human (and therefore fallible), are inaccurate and support a war that will kill thousands and devastate the lives of millions-with no glorious apocalypse or second coming-how are you being a Christian? Paul said to prepare yourself for the end-either yours or the world. There is nothing that humans can do to hasten the apocalypse. Whether we kill each other now or in the future.
On a further note, much of "post modern” Christian prophecy is not based on scripture but on an erroneous rapture theology which is not even 200 years old. It was John Nelson Darby
in the 1800's and it is Lahaye and Lindsey today, and it is still a lie!
How arrogant is the man who believes his generation is the last and most important!
As Christians should we not stand against war based on lies and greed?

At April 13, 2006, Blogger vintage_neo said...

I am not saying that I know the end is coming soon. I am not claiming to know the date and time. All I am saying is that, we as christians must have a sense of urgency when looking at world events. Christ taught us to live as if every moment was our last, He said that the end will come like a theif in the night. It is not arrogant for a man to think that his generation is last; it is to think his generation is the most important, but to think his is the last is what Christ taught us to think. He told His disciples that they would see the 'return of the Son of Man'. I am not in support of the war, but am looking at it terms of prophecy stated by the one I follow; He said that there will be great wars and natural disasters before He returns, so the more devastating the world gets, to me, is a sign that He is coming soon!

At April 13, 2006, Blogger Freddy-Fan said...

You guys have given me ample reason to blow off work tomorrow. If my boss calls and asks why I’m not there, I’ll tell him: “It’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine”. . .but I refuse to work anymore because my religion teaches me to live every moment as though it were my last.

On a related note. . .Nick, you should read my friend Paul’s blog. He’s a fellow PhD student in Sociology, and he is really active in the church. He posts every once and awhile about issues of faith and about Christian books he’s reading.

His blog is called “A Skeptic’s Thoughts” and it is found here:

At April 14, 2006, Blogger vintage_neo said...

Have a great day off! Sounds like fun!

At April 15, 2006, Blogger yelling_at_the_radio said...

Just one more question Vintage_Neo, do you agree that the U.S. should base its foreign policy and its environmental policy on end time prophecies?
also when-He told His disciples that they would see the 'return of the Son of Man'- Did he not say it would be in their own generation.
In Matthew 24:34 and Luke 21:32. Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place."

And please don't give me this answer:

Some of what Jesus prophesied fits with what occurred when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70 A.D. Other aspects of Jesus' prophecy, however, did not occur in 70 A.D., for example Matthew 24:29-31. However, this view does not work with Jesus' statement that "all these things" will take place in "this generation." Therefore, it is best to understand "this generation" as referring to the generation in which the end times events occur.

I don't buy this. It is more speculation than interpretation. Wondering if you can find a better answer. Hope you don't think I'm being a jerk. I would just like clarification.

At April 17, 2006, Blogger vintage_neo said...

The aspect of God that I am just beginning to realize and understand, which is especially evident in Jesus but even harder to understand, is that God isn't just one emotion or talks in one way. God is both angry at our disobedience but at the exact same time He is graciously loving. So, in Jesus some statements are made that both talk of the future and the present, it is both 'foretelling' and 'forthtelling' at the same time. Like when He makes the statements that the Kingdom of God is here but then later says the Kingdom of God is coming. So I think that Jesus saw both the end and the present all as one, and so taught His disciples and us to see things that. It gives a greater sense of urgency to try and set things right, or use the time we have the most effectively we can.

I agree with you though, that governemental policey should not be based on prophecy or religion for that matter. God gives us a choice, so should our government. I guess you are misunderstanding me. I am not saying that our government should start this war to fulfill prophecy but more so if this war is started it will fulfill prophecy. I hate war; I hate people dying; broken homes, broken families, pain suffering. It disgusts me but I am responsible for all of it just as you are...we are all sinners and by being that we must take responsibility for how messed up this world is. But as Christians we need to do a 180 and take the power of the resurrection back to the world and try to bring harmony back between God and man, between man and man, and between man and his enviroment.
Rob Bell, the pastor from Mars Hill said an awesome thing last night. Not in so many words but it was something like "May you go into the tomb and say 'Hey there is nobody her!' and take that power and peace everwhere with you."

At April 17, 2006, Blogger yelling_at_the_radio said...

Thank you, Vintage. I always enjoy our discussions.


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